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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Trent Snow - DD<ActiveReports.Support@DataDynamics.com>
Hello Steve--
The closest thing we have to the Dundas charts is a sample that uses Chart
Fx. Here is a link to that article:
http://www.datadynamics.com/kb/KBFINDShow.asp?ArticleId=1670 .
The concept is the same you have to add a control to the report as a custom
control and cast the control and pass data to the chart at runtime.
"Steve" wrote in message
news:PBRV1%23zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this in
> several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would work.
>
> Does anyone have any good examples of this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Steve
>
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08-25-2003, 12:00 AM
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Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Steve<pls2917@iname.com>
Hi,
I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this in
several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would work.
Does anyone have any good examples of this?
Thanks in advance,
-Steve
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08-26-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Phil Boakes<phil.boakes@FRMHedge.com>
Hi Steve
I'm producing a reporting system that uses components (charts, tables etc)
created in a Web Service (So they can be shared and centralised). I've used
both Dundas and ChartFX so far, and I'm about to use another. The main
problems I've had are due to print quality. The charts I've produced with
Dundas and ChartFX are perfect if I write them to a file, and view them
separately, but are "noisey" in Active Reports. I'm sure this is an Active
Reports issue. It appears that when Pictures are rendered in AR they gain
noise in the back ground and get "blurred". I think a lot of people have had
trouble with this. It was bad enough that I was considering switching over
to Crystal(!). However, when I switched to ChartFX I could create SVG
metafiles and AR seems to render these better, even though they are still
noisey. So it's good enough. I'm just hoping that the re-visit this in a
future hotfix before I have to release the code.
So my advice is use ChartFX as it will produce Metafiles and Dundas won't
(Yet). Dundas though appears to be a bit more powerful, and has a greater
range of chart types.
Phil
"Steve" wrote in message
news:PBRV1#zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this in
> several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would work.
>
> Does anyone have any good examples of this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Steve
>
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08-27-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Luther Miller<luther.miller@softagon.com.INVALID>
Phil,
I need to produce some reports soon with charts in them and I was thinking
of trying ChartFX. I am worried by your posting that the image quality will
not be up to par. Do you have a bug report open with Data Dynamics on this?
Are they planning to address it? (Anyone from DD want to comment?) I have to
do this by October, so image quality is no good in AR, that will be a big
problem.
Also, please post how it works out with the other charting tool you are
going to try.
When you use the SVG Metafiles with ChartFX, do you have to save them to a
temp file until the report has been generated? We are hoping that everything
can simply be done in memory - I don't want to get into a whole mess of
having to manage temp files in an ASP.NET application (generating unique
names, making sure they get cleaned up, etc.).
Thanks
Luther
"Phil Boakes" wrote in message
news:MVKeLC8aDHA.1076@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Hi Steve
>
> I'm producing a reporting system that uses components (charts, tables etc)
> created in a Web Service (So they can be shared and centralised). I've
used
> both Dundas and ChartFX so far, and I'm about to use another. The main
> problems I've had are due to print quality. The charts I've produced with
> Dundas and ChartFX are perfect if I write them to a file, and view them
> separately, but are "noisey" in Active Reports. I'm sure this is an Active
> Reports issue. It appears that when Pictures are rendered in AR they gain
> noise in the back ground and get "blurred". I think a lot of people have
had
> trouble with this. It was bad enough that I was considering switching over
> to Crystal(!). However, when I switched to ChartFX I could create SVG
> metafiles and AR seems to render these better, even though they are still
> noisey. So it's good enough. I'm just hoping that the re-visit this in a
> future hotfix before I have to release the code.
>
> So my advice is use ChartFX as it will produce Metafiles and Dundas won't
> (Yet). Dundas though appears to be a bit more powerful, and has a greater
> range of chart types.
>
> Phil
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
> news:PBRV1#zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> > ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this in
> > several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would work.
> >
> > Does anyone have any good examples of this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > -Steve
> >
> >
>
>
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08-28-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Steve<pls2917@iname.com>
Phil,
Could you tell me more about how you integrated the Dundas charts? I looked
at the ChartFX example provided by Trent and it was not clear to me how I
would apply that same method to Dundas.
It seems that the Dundas web controls are geared toward streaming the image
data directly to the browser and do not have an easy way to capture the
image and place it inside the ActiveReports area.
-Steve
"Phil Boakes" wrote in message
news:MVKeLC8aDHA.1076@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Hi Steve
>
> I'm producing a reporting system that uses components (charts, tables etc)
> created in a Web Service (So they can be shared and centralised). I've
used
> both Dundas and ChartFX so far, and I'm about to use another. The main
> problems I've had are due to print quality. The charts I've produced with
> Dundas and ChartFX are perfect if I write them to a file, and view them
> separately, but are "noisey" in Active Reports. I'm sure this is an Active
> Reports issue. It appears that when Pictures are rendered in AR they gain
> noise in the back ground and get "blurred". I think a lot of people have
had
> trouble with this. It was bad enough that I was considering switching over
> to Crystal(!). However, when I switched to ChartFX I could create SVG
> metafiles and AR seems to render these better, even though they are still
> noisey. So it's good enough. I'm just hoping that the re-visit this in a
> future hotfix before I have to release the code.
>
> So my advice is use ChartFX as it will produce Metafiles and Dundas won't
> (Yet). Dundas though appears to be a bit more powerful, and has a greater
> range of chart types.
>
> Phil
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
> news:PBRV1#zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> > ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this in
> > several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would work.
> >
> > Does anyone have any good examples of this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > -Steve
> >
> >
>
>
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08-29-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net try C1
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Originally Posted By: Gerald<RDQSAQIFUYUA@spammotel.com>
Hello Everybody
It is also good idea to use C1 (cheaper than FX) . It works for me. C1
produces metafiles as well. This is good for printing from AR.net. But when
Exporting to Html and PDF Image quality is poor. This is why i have use
another Pdf-Printer. AR does sent the metafile of the graphics to the
printer driver the results are small Pdf Files with highly scalable
graphics. I still wonder why they do not export it to PDF as well.
DD has to something about metafile export (PDF) and imagequality(size) and
Type. When exporting to html the metafile is transformed into a png, which
is good, but this is lacking anti-aliasing otherwise it would be perfect.
The PDF export seems to use JPG which is better for fotos but worse for
vector-graphics which are commonly used on reports. Anyhow I still like AR
but DD could be a little bit more responsive on those questions. I even
would be willing to pay an update fee for these features.
Dundas has really cool images for the web but it will never be as good as
metafiles for printing.
This is how you could use c1:
Dim Mychart As C1.Win.C1Chart.C1Chart
Mychart = CType(MyC1Chart.Control, C1.Win.C1Chart.C1Chart)
Mychart.LoadChartFromFile(EMPTYLAYOUT)....
Gerald
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09-18-2003, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Phil Boakes<phil.boakes@FRMHedge.com>
Steve
Sorry for the delay, I've been trying to get this all working.
I've now recoded the same 4 graphs in Dundas, ChartFX and Component One
(Yeah, starting to get sick of it) with the following results: I need SVG to
get near acceptable quality. The business users haven't noticed the
difference over the old Excel ones so I guess they are good enough, but they
could be SO much better if DD would just sort out their PDFExport. I'm
beginning to realise that it is the managed PDF export filter that is the
problem, as I used the VB 6 version with no problems at all.
I have one pie chart, 2 line charts with multiple series and one XY scatter
(which is very small). ChartFX did them all, but I could not format the axis
on the small XY scatter how I wanted so I used Component One for this which
was perfect. So then I tried to redo one of the line charts in Component One
and found it won't let me format the Y axis how ChartFX will. This all
starts to get V. irritating. The end result of this is that I have to use
Component One for the scatter and ChartFX for the other 3. The main problem
is ChartFX is very expensive. This report portal will probably pay for
itself in the first morning, so I've just been told to go for both and get
on with the next bit of coding !!
Come on DD. Sort that managed PDF filter out.....
Phil
"Steve" wrote in message
news:Z9jxaIWbDHA.376@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Phil,
>
> Could you tell me more about how you integrated the Dundas charts? I
looked
> at the ChartFX example provided by Trent and it was not clear to me how I
> would apply that same method to Dundas.
>
> It seems that the Dundas web controls are geared toward streaming the
image
> data directly to the browser and do not have an easy way to capture the
> image and place it inside the ActiveReports area.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> "Phil Boakes" wrote in message
> news:MVKeLC8aDHA.1076@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > I'm producing a reporting system that uses components (charts, tables
etc)
> > created in a Web Service (So they can be shared and centralised). I've
> used
> > both Dundas and ChartFX so far, and I'm about to use another. The main
> > problems I've had are due to print quality. The charts I've produced
with
> > Dundas and ChartFX are perfect if I write them to a file, and view them
> > separately, but are "noisey" in Active Reports. I'm sure this is an
Active
> > Reports issue. It appears that when Pictures are rendered in AR they
gain
> > noise in the back ground and get "blurred". I think a lot of people have
> had
> > trouble with this. It was bad enough that I was considering switching
over
> > to Crystal(!). However, when I switched to ChartFX I could create SVG
> > metafiles and AR seems to render these better, even though they are
still
> > noisey. So it's good enough. I'm just hoping that the re-visit this in a
> > future hotfix before I have to release the code.
> >
> > So my advice is use ChartFX as it will produce Metafiles and Dundas
won't
> > (Yet). Dundas though appears to be a bit more powerful, and has a
greater
> > range of chart types.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > "Steve" wrote in message
> > news:PBRV1#zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> > > ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this
in
> > > several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would
work.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any good examples of this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > -Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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09-18-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dundas charts and ActiveReports.Net
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Originally Posted By: Phil Boakes<phil.boakes@FRMHedge.com>
Steve
Sorry, just realised that I didn't answer your question. My architecture is
a Web Application which just uses AR as a container, with no code
(well...minimal code). I create a WebService factory object which returns
(metafile) images through byte arrays and I then set the Image in AR with
one line of code. It's neat and centralises the generation of our charts
which can be used everywhere. Suprisingly, I had all that working quickly
and it has been very robust. The rest of the problems have been finding
graph components that are up to the job. What is strange is that all of
these were previously created by Excel with no problems at all.
Is there any kind of managed interface to the Excel charting functionality
(does this need Office XP ?). What are the licence implications of using
Excel on a web server ? Has anyone had any success at that ?
Phil
"Steve" wrote in message
news:Z9jxaIWbDHA.376@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> Phil,
>
> Could you tell me more about how you integrated the Dundas charts? I
looked
> at the ChartFX example provided by Trent and it was not clear to me how I
> would apply that same method to Dundas.
>
> It seems that the Dundas web controls are geared toward streaming the
image
> data directly to the browser and do not have an easy way to capture the
> image and place it inside the ActiveReports area.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> "Phil Boakes" wrote in message
> news:MVKeLC8aDHA.1076@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > I'm producing a reporting system that uses components (charts, tables
etc)
> > created in a Web Service (So they can be shared and centralised). I've
> used
> > both Dundas and ChartFX so far, and I'm about to use another. The main
> > problems I've had are due to print quality. The charts I've produced
with
> > Dundas and ChartFX are perfect if I write them to a file, and view them
> > separately, but are "noisey" in Active Reports. I'm sure this is an
Active
> > Reports issue. It appears that when Pictures are rendered in AR they
gain
> > noise in the back ground and get "blurred". I think a lot of people have
> had
> > trouble with this. It was bad enough that I was considering switching
over
> > to Crystal(!). However, when I switched to ChartFX I could create SVG
> > metafiles and AR seems to render these better, even though they are
still
> > noisey. So it's good enough. I'm just hoping that the re-visit this in a
> > future hotfix before I have to release the code.
> >
> > So my advice is use ChartFX as it will produce Metafiles and Dundas
won't
> > (Yet). Dundas though appears to be a bit more powerful, and has a
greater
> > range of chart types.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> > "Steve" wrote in message
> > news:PBRV1#zaDHA.1896@dynaweb.datadynamics.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am looking for information on how Dundas charts can be embedded in
> > > ActiveReports for ASP.NET applications? I have seen mention of this
in
> > > several posts, but without a lot of information on how this would
work.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any good examples of this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > -Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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