09-15-2003, 12:00 AM
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All DCube developers please read.
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Originally Posted By: Josh Thomas<nospam@nospam.com>
Below is a copy of a thread that was post on DD's new online forum. Please either post a response here on on their website if you would pay for a new major upgrade.
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Josh Thomas
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Yes, there is a future for Dynamicube as an activeX control."
I think that there can only be a future if DD has a major upgrade release.
"We would PAY immediately for a major upgrade, that is free of the pending bugs." I agree.
Can all other developers that read this post a response and say if they would pay for an upgrade.
Thanks
Josh Thomas
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Ernst
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 2 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-15-2003 11:51 AM
Dynamicube has done a lot of positive things for us in the past. Yes, there is a future for Dynamicube as an activeX control.
We would PAY immediately for a major upgrade, that is free of the pending bugs. We understand that your chimney must continue to be smoking (probably incorrect English)
The biggest condition to buy such an upgrade would be that the new version is compatible with the older ones (so, do not remove any events or methods or change parameters on a method). We do not want to be obligated to change and test all the older applications.
Yes, there is a future for Dynamicube as an activeX control.
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MarkStals
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 3 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 02:56 PM
Two rival OLAP tools for Delphi rely on TeeChart for graphing their Cubes. This component is not only available as in VCL format, but also as a ActiveX and .Net control as well. Check out www.steema.com for more information.
As I mentioned in an previous post, .net is not an option for me for the next 3 years at least. My current employer (with 720 employees) sees IT more as a necessary evil than anything else. My targeted end users work on anything from a Pentium I with Windows95 to a Pentium IV with Windows 2000. Requests for better machines are routinely answered with a extensive no. Using a web interface is no soltion either, as the various offices are connected with a low bandwith line.
And this attitude towards IT is common amongst the majority of companies I worked for/with in the last 5 years.
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Josh Thomas
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 12 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 12:12 PM
How about an Activex control that works in .net. That way you can make VB developers happy and .net developers somewhat happy. I still have a massive VB app that I need to keep but I am also developing new modules for that app that will be written in c#, so I need both.
I know that I, and other developers in my company, have said some tough things in DD newsgroups concerning DCube but I feel that DCube was pushed aside in favor of something that makes more money. Making money is what everybody, including myself, is working towards, but sometimes making your customers happy is more important.
I see that you mentioned the graph enhancement but what about fixing the bugs first?
Josh Thomas
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Issam Elbaytam
Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 8 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 11:24 AM
Thank you for your feedback and we appreciate your interest in DynamiCube. While our focus currently is on the main revenue generating products for the health of our business. DynamiCube is still an integral part of our overall starategy to deliver a set of components for Data Analysis and Information Delivery.
Mark mentioned the graph that is almost an essential requirement for DynamiCube, that is something that we're seriously looking into. However, it is a massive project on its own outside of all what needs to be done with DynamiCube.
I do have one question in return to all of you. Our development focus is shifting towards .net components, is this the same direction that you're heading? or are you still in need for an activex version of dynamicube?
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Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 12 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 10:46 AM
I have seen many posts like this and I wonder if DD will ever get the point. I guess they don't have the money to hire a dedicated developer for DCube but they sure have a pretty website now.
Josh Thomas
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Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 3 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 09:52 AM
Well Josh, I just read all messages in your thread and none of the replies from DD said anything different than what they been saying for the past 4 years. It all boils down to "we won't forget DynamiCube but for the moment we're to busy with [any other control]". It is a shame. Back in 1995 DynamiCube was their first control, and it was a gem back then.
I've shown my key users a trial version of a new project using both OLAP controls on the same set of data. DC scored on screen usage and printing, but the other control won them over thanks to built-in customizable graphs, cleaner export to Excel and HTML, and more on the fly data comparison options than is good for them. No points for guessing which control I'm using now in this project. Its documentation is a far cry from the excellent DC manual, but I'm very glad it's a Delphi VCL control with full source code.
In it's current form and with the current competitors, DC's lack of built-in graphs is a showstopper for my end users. Looks do matter after all...
Please DataDynamics, get some people to work exclusively to work on DC3. Only that will generate sufficient cash from upgrades and new customers.
Let me know when it's done,
Best wishes.
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Josh Thomas
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 12 Re: Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 07:46 AM
See my posts in the "New build of DCube for .Net" thread for my thoughts
Josh Thomas
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MarkStals
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Total Posts: 3 Is there a future for DynamiCube as an ActiveX control? Posted: 09-11-2003 01:04 AM
Well, the subject says it all. It has been an extremely long time since DynamiCube ActiveX had a major upgrade. IMHO some competitors have overtaken this decent control in several areas, but DynamiCube has got a few areas in which it is not matched yet (namely printing and screen usage).
For me DynamiCube for .Net is not an option, since my employer is not even remotely planning to switch to .Net.
Any comments would be welcome.
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